This crowd GETS it! Congratulations for such a fantastic showing and I know you made so many more aware! Good job New Yorkers!

this is great. there should be multiple protest camps across the country (crawford Tx, Washingon Dc, NYC, etc.) with the stated goal that they will stay until the troops come home. has anyone heard of any other camps being set up? is the plan to attempt to stay just tonight in union square or indefinitly? there is so much potentional here, please share whatever info you have. peace.

As the mom of a 20 year-old son, a reservist with the US National Guard, I want to say THANK YOU AMERICA!!

I am grateful to Cindy to shine a much needed spot light upon this illegal an immoral war.

I live in Republicanville, a nice suburb full of cold people who had no problem supporting this war. I am angry at them all.

But you folks......you are restoring my faith in humanity. Please continue your wonderful work.

I will be in Texas to support Cindy next week...Texas or Bust!

Don't mistake me. What Bush represents (and what the criminal order known as transnational corporate capitalism is) is pure evil. Yet these three ring media spectacles usually end with a lot of well meaning, put inexperienced people, getting frustrated, throwing up their hands and giving up. I think we should put this in perspective, no matter how personally compelling Ms. Sheehan's story is. Throughout history senseless and criminal war has made many such widows, bereaving parents and fatherless/motherless children. But perhaps this should be toned down a bit.

As to the rants and charges of "anti-semitism" eminating out from the yahoos at Little Green Turdballs, those yutzes have no credibility whatever. Charles Johnson is one of those simple mind little turds, who if one met in person, would cause one to pause and wonder what all the fuss was about anyway. He is a "total zero."

Regardless of our nationality or religion, at one time or another, we all tend to believe the smokescreens of the super rich. Two hundred people own more than half of the world’s wealth. How did that happen? They create ideologies and propagandas, and while we are at each other’s throats their hands are in our pockets. The more research you do the more you will realize that no world leader has the best interest of the people. That goes double for countries at war. Think about it.

Rational people must focus on eliminating the concept of Imperialism. Slavery was here before Bush; Native American Genocide was here before Bush. Senseless wars with Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Panama, (50 countries after WWII) etc. were here before Bush. Have you cancelled your subscription to Popular Mechanics? Do you still buy your local newspaper even though it helped Bush lie to you about 9-11 and WMD? If you support them or any business that aids the neocon agenda then you are part of the problem. Solidarity is all-important. Those who support the neocons should ask Cheney to share his nuclear bunker space because WWIII is just around the corner. If the police learn the truth, they will not arrest peaceful protestors. If young soldiers learn the truth, they will not fight in corporate wars. And you as a citizen, if you learn the truth, will no longer support the war machine company profits e.g.: Exxon, GE, Ford, GM, IBM, Chase, Citibank, etc. Usually the bigger the company or bank, you’ll find the smaller the morals.

I AGREE!!!

Bush is afraid of Cindy Sheehan, afraid of the truth, afraid of accountability, afraid of the people demanding truth and accountability. Bush is in a desperate position, he needs a terrorist attack in the USA, to rally the troops. In the last 30 days his plots to blow up the grand jury in Chicago have been stopped twice. General Byrnes in Charleston, South Carolina foiled his fake terrorist nuclear attack and one of his agents got caught planting a fake bomb in a Washington hotel. Indictments for treason (capitol offence) are coming down in Chicago in October by Patrick Fitzgerald. Its a great time for massive civil uprising, but remember, insist on the truth. Nixon was allowed to resign, to live out his life like a king, while simply handing off the ball to one of his evil cohorts. REMEMBER BUSH WAS NEVER ELECTED, insist on the truth. Remember, that this farce was supported by Democrats as well, they have blood on their hands as well. Remember, the media was complicit, in the crimes of Bush. We need to remove the New World Order and anyone who saluted the PNAC program. Remember, the World Trade Centers, three towers, two airplanes????? At least they cleared all the firemen and police before they imploded a 47 story skyscraper (WTC 7), seven hours after the attack. Remember the Pentagon attack or maybe Rumsfeld said it best when he said "when the missile his the Pentagon". Remember, if a missile hit the Pentagon, the passengers of Flight 77 might still be alive (Gitmo???). Remember 1/2 the truth is still a lie.

Bush doesn't "need" anything. He could pretty much do about anything, including buttfucking Jerry Fallwell while frenching Osama Ben Laden in Macy's main window at high noon on Thanksgiving Day, and no one can or will do anything.

And do you know why? Because most people are sheep. And those that aren't are no position to do anything anyway. So rant away.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaa!

What if ALL the anti-war and ALL anti-status quo - military/corporate/industrial elitism complex folks in the USA would just cease buying gas, or spending any money whatsoever, for say, just one day a week, like every Wednesday for example, until the war in Iraq ended?

WOW!!!!
This is SO heartening. From the Canadian perspective (which, admittedly, is fed by US mainstream media), a lot of us thought you were all 'hawks'.
What you guys are doing is incredibly powerful. My prayers are with you.
Keep up the good work....
Peace and love,
Kevin

at first i thought this was crawford, tx. when i realised it was nyc i got choked up.

As a Jewish American who opposes the war, I find it ridiculous that the Republican Jewish groups are attacking Cindy as being "anti-Semitic" for saying Israel should pull out of its occupation, in order to make peace

Number one, Israel currently *is* pulling out of Gaza for that very reason, with the full support of
1) the Israeli public
2) the American Jewish public
3) the world



"Since 1967, there has been only one workable solution to the conflict. The plan is articulated in U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, which sets up a two-part 'land for peace' solution. Part one holds that Israel must withdraw from the territories occupied in 1967. Part two calls for all states in the region to live in peace and security in those borders. The Israeli obligation, withdrawal from the occupied territories, is utterly unfulfilled."
-Hussein Ibish, communications director of the American-Arab Anti Discrimination Committee, in the Los Angeles Times, October 18, 2000.

Some people are going to have a big protest in Washington on Sept. 24 a Saturday. It will do no good, as it is on a Saturday. You need to protest during the week to be seen and heard. This would make me believe that the people that are sponsoring the protest are dumb or under control of the elite establishment. Wake up people!!

Saturdays, Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays.... anytime or anyplace.

Bring in 100,000, 500,000, 1,000,000, 10,000,000, 100,000,000 people and it won't matter, (unless you'te in sanitation).

Do you want to know why? No money, no overal agreement on anything beyond being an opposition, no intelligent long term planning, etc. In short no staying power.

The powers-that-be know this and go on with their previously agreed to plans, with minor modifications, as the situation may call.

Perhaps some here may be wish to take courses on organizational theory and
political management. It may do a world of good.

Do you know why?

Not because there are big bucks to be made by corporations I own shares in. No, that would be selfish and money grabbing.

Not because I enjoy wanton scenes of savagery, barbarism, mayhem, and mass murder. No that would be sadistic and cold blooded.

Not because I hate Muslims or Arabs. That would be racist.

Not because I want democracy to take root there. Anyone with more than a brainstem knows that it is being waged for oil, profits, or out of some big geopolitcal concern. (If you believe that one I have some valuable North Sea property I want to sell you very reasonably).

Not because, "we" are in too deep in the big muddy now to ever get out. One supposes that is the present day variation on "peace with honor" or "light at the end of the tunnel." It didn't work during LBJ's or Tricky Dick's time and it won't work now.

Not even because it will cull the surplus population of dolts, idiots and fools to stupid to live, or even random imperialists and Bush supporters, (the really smart ones wouldn't be caught within a thousand miles of Iraq anyway). That would be too Scroogelike or Malthusian.

No the reason I like the war, the way I figure it, is the price of gasoline is tied in with the goings on in the Gulf. The price of gasoline is on its way to the $10.00 level. The sooner it arrives there, the sooner we will get to an internal combustion engine free future.

Call me a SOB...but hey I didn't start the damned thing.

Greeting from Albuquerque New Mexico

I am leaving for Crawford tommorow!

Crosses vandalized at antiwar mom's Texas camp site
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/bush_protester_dc;_ylt=Ai7Vfw74F_eEtRuJz4vroQYDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
Bush has repeatedly exploited Christian beliefs to sell his wars, but when it comes right down to it, his supporters do not hesitate to trash the symbols of the Christian faith (and several American flags) as easily as they trash the symbols of Islamic faith. This should prove that Bush and his supporters honor the memory of the fallen only when it serves their own purposes.
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Q Does the President have any plans at all to meet with Cindy Sheehan? And what did you think about the latest, you know, thing where the crosses were destroyed along the road?
 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050816.html
MS. PERINO: The President said in his -- last Thursday, when he spoke to you all after the defense meeting, that he sympathizes with her, he has met with her before. He said that one of the most cherished rights in America is the right to free speech and that she has a right to express her views. He does not agree with her views, but he says he respects her right to peacefully protest. But, other than that, I have nothing more to add.

Some of President Bush's neighbors asked county leaders Tuesday to prevent large gatherings near the Crawford ranch like the ongoing anti-war protest led by a mother of a soldier who died in Iraq.
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/16/AR2005081600569.html
If the ordinance passes, demonstrators probably would have to stay in Crawford, which is 7 miles away.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

with the non violent resistance in all of its forms

-To whom it may concern-

I like what the people in NYC and in Texas (you go, Cindy!)
are trying to do. They are organizing, they have a right to speak out,
and to be heard. They also have the right to be represented by people
that they actually vote for in the first place. They are all starting to wake up, and to show some good-ol' American courage...not what the "leader" thinks he's doing. He has proven many times in his careers
to be not particularly adept, articulate, compassionate, or anything like what he pretends to be on camera. He's a fake, period... they all play the same games over and over, and over again. Wake up people, do what's right for a change...don't lie to yourself and pretend that they'll leave you alone if you just play along. Educate yourself at whatreallyhappend.com. I don't condone violence, and they want to use that against us...think about that the next time they stage something and invoke more of their self-serving "powers"...they play on your fear, they seem to thrive on it. Nobody deserves to be treated the way that they make our children do horrible things...well they won't get my kids...the bankers can have this other bullshit too...I have my family and that's all that matters to me. -Screw you folks that can't understand that.

The "man" talks shit about "peace", and being "Christian".
Well believe this: If there's a "God" that entity does not
want anyone being killed, anyone, for any reason. Period.
Ya' wanna talk shit, be a real man and talk to the woman, you coward.



I have native blood, and it makes mine boil when I think of what "they"
did to my ancestors...there's such a thing as "Karma"...and they know it.

is -camp casey nyc- still up? can someone give an update of what has happened/ is happening with that.

There was an article in NY Times today that said he actually met with her, but that she was not satisfied with the meeting for some reason, is that true?

So far this century proceeds apace: famines and genocides, invasions, occupations and suicide bombers. Humankind goes on burning the bridges in front and behind us without apology, our own worst enemies, God help us all.

And maybe this is the part I find most distancing about your president, not his fanatic heart - the unassailable sense he projects that God is on his side - we all have that. But that he seems to lack anything like real remorse, here in the third August of Iraq, in the fourth August of Afghanistan, in the fifth August of his presidency - for all of the intemperate speech, for the weapons of mass destruction that were not there, the "Mission Accomplished" that really wasn't, for the funerals he will not attend, the mothers of the dead he will not speak to, the bodies of the dead we are not allowed to see and all of the soldiers and civilians whose lives have been irretrievably lost or irreparably changed by his (and our) "Bring it On" bravado in a world made more perilous by such pronouncements.

Surely we must all bear our share of guilt and deep regret, some sadness at the idea that here we are, another August into our existence, and whether we arrived by way of evolution or intelligent design or the hand of God working over the void, no history can record that we've progressed beyond our hateful, warring and fanatical ways.

We may be irreversibly committed to play out the saga of Iraq. But each of us, we humans, if we are to look our own kind in the eye, should at least be willing to say we're sorry, that all over our smaller and more lethal planet, whatever the causes, we're still killing our own kind - the same but different - but our own kind nonetheless. Even on vacation we oughtn't hide from that.

 http://nytimes.com/2005/08/17/opinion/17lynch.html?pagewanted=print

Camp Casey in Union Square is still up, dont know for how much longer. Those camping out last night were ticketed early this morning by our friends in the NYPD.

I thought this piece linked above was so good, I wanted to post it here in full. It's by Thomas Lynch:


Left Behind
By THOMAS LYNCH
Moveen, Ireland

LIKE President Bush, I enjoy clearing brush in August. We both like quittance of the suit and tie, freedom from duty and detail and to breathe deeply the insouciant air of summer.

He makes for his ranch in Crawford, Tex., a town with no bars and five churches. I come to my holdings near Carrigaholt, here in County Clare, where there are six bars and one church and the house my great-grandfather left more than a century ago for a better life in America.

Of course, we have our differences - the president and I. He flies on Air Force One with an entourage. I fly steerage with hopes for an aisle seat. His ranch runs to 1,600 acres. My cottage sits on something less than two. He fishes for bass stocked in his private lake. I fish for mackerel in the North Atlantic. He keeps cattle and horses. I have a pair of piebald asses - Charles and Camilla I call them, after the sweethearts on the neighboring island.

I suppose we're just trying to reconnect with our roots and home places - Mr. Bush and I. He identifies as a Texan in the John Wayne sense as I do with the Irish in the Barry Fitzgerald sense. And we're both in our 50's, white, male, Christian and American with all the perks. We both went into our fathers' businesses: he does leadership of the free world; I do mostly local funerals. Neither of us went to Vietnam, and we both quit drink for all of the usual reasons. I imagine we both pray for our children to outlive us and that we have the usual performance anxieties.

The president works out a couple of hours a day. I go for long walks by the sea. We occupy that fraction of a fraction of the planet's inhabitants for whom keeping body and soul together - shelter, safety, food and drink - is not the immediate, everyday concern. We count ourselves among the blessed and elect who struggle with the troubles of surfeit rather than shortfall.

So why do I sense we are from different planets?

"The same but different" my late and ancient cousin Nora Lynch used to say, confronted by such mysteries and verities.

Out of Ireland have we come.

Great hatred, little room,

Maimed us at the start.

I carry from my mother's womb

A fanatic heart.

It was in August 1931 when W. B. Yeats wrote "Remorse for Intemperate Speech," which includes this remarkable stanza. Yeats had witnessed the birthing of a new Irish nation through insurgency and civil war. He had served as a Free State senator, and, after winning the Nobel Prize in Literature, was the country's public man of letters. An Anglo-Irishman who had ditched high-church Christianity in favor of swamis and Theosophists and his wife's dabblings in the occult, he was torn between the right-wing politics of between-wars Europe and the romantic, mythic past of Ireland.

His poem confesses and laments that reason and breeding, imagination and good intentions are nonetheless trumped by the contagion of hatred and by the human propensity toward extreme and unquestioning enthusiasm for a cause - whatever cause. It is what links enemies, what makes terrorists "martyrs" and "patriots" among their own - the fanatic heart beating in the breast of every true believer.

Yeats' remorse was real, and well it should have been. The century he wrote this poem in became the bloodiest in the history of our species. Wars and ethnic cleansings, holocausts and atom bombings - each an exercise in the god-awful formula by which the smaller the world becomes, by technologies of travel and communications, the more amplified our hatreds and the more lethal our weaponries become. Great hatred, little room, indeed.

So far this century proceeds apace: famines and genocides, invasions, occupations and suicide bombers. Humankind goes on burning the bridges in front and behind us without apology, our own worst enemies, God help us all.

And maybe this is the part I find most distancing about my president, not his fanatic heart - the unassailable sense he projects that God is on his side - we all have that. But that he seems to lack anything like real remorse, here in the third August of Iraq, in the fourth August of Afghanistan, in the fifth August of his presidency - for all of the intemperate speech, for the weapons of mass destruction that were not there, the "Mission Accomplished" that really wasn't, for the funerals he will not attend, the mothers of the dead he will not speak to, the bodies of the dead we are not allowed to see and all of the soldiers and civilians whose lives have been irretrievably lost or irreparably changed by his (and our) "Bring it On" bravado in a world made more perilous by such pronouncements.

Surely we must all bear our share of guilt and deep regret, some sadness at the idea that here we are, another August into our existence, and whether we arrived by way of evolution or intelligent design or the hand of God working over the void, no history can record that we've progressed beyond our hateful, warring and fanatical ways.

We may be irreversibly committed to play out the saga of Iraq. But each of us, we humans, if we are to look our own kind in the eye, should at least be willing to say we're sorry, that all over our smaller and more lethal planet, whatever the causes, we're still killing our own kind - the same but different - but our own kind nonetheless. Even on vacation we oughtn't hide from that.

Thomas Lynch, a funeral director, is the author of"The Undertaking" and "Booking Passage: We Irish and Americans."

It's truly amazing: the MSM want to hold Sheehan's feet to the fire on statements she's denied making about Israel while allowing Dick "last throes" Cheney, Condi "mushroom cloud" Rice, George "slam dunk" Tenet, Alberto "quaint" Gonzalez, and George "Mission Accomplished" Bush a free pass.

Bring Them Home Now Tour

From Camp Casey, Crawford to Washington DC




From George Bush’s door step to Communities along the way, We Demand That:


Elected Representatives Decide Now to Bring the Troops Home
We Take Care of Them When They Get Here
We Never Again Send Our Loved Ones to War Based on Lies!

We are currently at a significant turning point in how the American public views the war in Iraq. As the death toll in Iraq rises, Cindy Sheehan’s vigil near President Bush’s ranch in Crawford, Texas, has captured the hearts and minds of thousands of Americans. Bush’s approval rating is falling. The voice of military families, who have lost loved ones and those with loved ones in harm’s way or about to deploy, can activate the American people. The voice of veterans, both of this war and of previous wars will also build the movement to end the war. Together these critical voices can demand that President Bush make the decision now to bring the troops home.

On August 31st, the last day of the encampment, the Bring Them Home Now Tour will launch three buses from Crawford, Texas, each carrying military and Gold Star families, veterans of the Iraq War and veterans of previous wars. These buses will travel different routes across the country, converging in Washington, DC on September 21, for the United for Peace and Justice Mobilization September 24th-26th.

more info @

 http://bringthemhomenowtour.org/article.php?list=type&type=3

Host the Tour

The National Tour will bring powerful speakers to your community to share information, stories and mobilize people into action. We want to bring the spirit of Camp Casey and the courageous act of standing up to those in power with our voice and our heart.

To make this successful we need your help. We need your community to:


Organize and publicize local events

Provide housing and food for the tour participants

Raise money locally for gas to the next stop and overall support of the tour

Follow-up with local media contacts, and help document the arrival and event

Gather the materials we need to erect a memorial – many of the photos and materials can be downloaded from the website. We will be bringing some of the boots and photos and tents with us.


Offer Housing for the Tour

Offer to Host the Tour in your Town

Some ideas for local events
Some ideas of events that you can organize when the Tour comes to your town

more info @

 http://bringthemhomenowtour.org/article.php?list=type&type=10