The behavior on the part of the City and the NYPD is totally unacceptable in a democracy. I hope there are 1000 + civilrights and damages law suits filed against the NYC bureaucracy-

By calling the situation in NYC a hostage crisis you degrade REAL crises worldwide, such as what's just happened in Russia.

I support the protests and abhor dubya, so please take these comments in solidarity. When you rachet up the drama with headlines like this, you only make yourself look like a whiny child.

The fact of the matter is, arraignments routinely take more than 24 hours in nyc. Just because protestors were held for 24+ hours does not a conspiracy make. I wouldn't dismiss out of hand that there was a possible motivation to keep people off the streets last night, and that should be investigated. In fact, the booking process in general should be assessed and additional staffing provided to ensure all arrestees -- political or not -- are processed within 24 hours. too bad nobody made so much noise before the convention when it was mostly black arrestees (interesting, yes?) clogging the system.

But all this hyperbole about a "hostage crisis" totally undermines your credibility.

peace.

REUTERS:

Dozens Killed as Shootout Ends Russian School Siege

By Richard Ayton and Oliver Bullough
BESLAN, Russia (Reuters) -

Dozens were killed when Russian troops stormed a school Friday in a chaotic battle to free hundreds of parents, teachers and children who had been held hostage for 53 hours by Chechen separatists.

Naked children ran for safety, screaming amid machinegun fire and explosions while attack helicopters clattered overhead.

Julian Manyon, a reporter for Britain's ITV television news, said his cameraman had seen up to 100 bodies in the gymnasium of the school in Beslan, in the North Ossetia region adjoining Chechnya, after the hostage-takers left:

"Our cameraman ... told me that in his estimation there are as many as 100 dead bodies, I am afraid, lying on the smoldering floor of the gymnasium where we know that a large number of the hostages were being held."

The Tass news agency said there more than 400 wounded. Russian news agencies said at least seven people had been dead on arrival at hospital. Rebels fled with soldiers in pursuit.

In the chaotic hours after the battle began, half- or fully naked children gulped from bottles of water after two days without food or drink in a stiflingly hot and crowded school.

"I smashed the window to get out," one young boy with a bandaged hand told Russian television. "People were running in all directions ... They (the rebels) shot from the roof."

It was unclear what had triggered the battle, shortly after Russia insisted it would not resort to force.

The prolonged fighting and scenes of chaos suggested that, if Russian forces had planned to storm the building, their hand had been forced before they were ready.


..continues at  http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=HM11TP2IIUOPICRBAELCFFA?type=topNews&storyID=6146496

NYC needs to call for Bloomberg's resignation over this.

For all the protestors, I just must say a BIG THANK YOU for doing it, speaking out, and undergoing (illegal) hardship in order to defend our constitutionally-protected right to free speech. For every one of you there, there are many of us around the world who support your actions and who are paying attention. THANK YOU.

Not that it really matters, but who gets the money of the fine? NY State?

Unfortunately this is not a one time thing. The new York City Police have a habbit of illegal arrests. In one experience I was arrested in New York, held in a bus for eight hours then kept in a public holding cell for well past the 24 maximum. This was with 2 dozen or so other people. I later found out that this experience was similar to that of others arrested. I'm quite sure it is standard procedure with the NYPD thinking they are above the law.

I wish congradulate evryone on making it through the hardships imposed by the NYPD (including the bologne sandwiches), and I wish you all luck in dealing with your legal situations. I also encourage you to take action not only for yourselves, but for everyone else that has been abused by the NYPD (myself included) and never received the justice they deserve.

for clarification to know if in-person support downtown would still help (though much other help needed on other fronts of course): are there still any detainees or has everyone really been released as of thursday morning?

I think it would be naive to think that the Bloomberg administration wasn't intentionally holding people until the convention ended. The mayor has made his support of the Bush Administration more than clear. And I don't think that this was just the usual 24hr.plus delay in processing arrestees: a woman who was arrested in front of my house just for being on the wrong street at the wrong time (not involved in protest in any way) was held for more than 45 hours, and only reaseased by the judge's decision against the city.

And for those concerned about trivializing real terrorism by dramatic comparison; read the Bloomberg quote today comparing non-violent protesters to the 9/11 terrorists.... We must vote the republicans out of office; protest is good but not enough to get them out now.

to : what?!?

Holding people aginst their will for political reasons is the very definition of a hostage situation, which is exactly what the city is doing. In fact by calling it that it heightens awareness of this injustice rather than dimminishing the importance of others. No matter what people say, there is no excuse for holding anybody, black or white, longer than the shortest amount of time necessary in order to process arrests according to the due process laws. When they arrange for extra arraignment parts to be available and then don't use them, they're holding people longer than they need to and everybody can see why they did it. It's inexcusable so stop making excuses for the city.

Hostage situ is right...look at protests and violations of free speech in Seattle, Miami, GA...I am not at least surprised at the police state tactics. Lets be blunt here, the Gestapo doesn't want the American public in general knowing the extent of the encroachment of government power. Today, we are at risk for political dissent, we are at risk of being jailed for being poor, we are at risk for being jailed for reading certain materials (see Patriot Act). To not be a state controlled drone, to question and to speak out, means today, you are enemy of the Bush Regime. Democracy my ass...we are living in a regime, and King George Bush needs to be booted, him and all his crooneys. America, its time to dump the tea into the harbor once more. For all those protesting, for those jailed, my admiration and thanks to each and every one of you...wish I could have been there...I would have proudly stood by your side. Bush is a liar, this nation is in tyranny under benevolant fascism, and if we don't take back our government, its only going to get worse. Anarsi! Kapitalista Kills.

Way to go NLG!!! And way to go protestors!

Love,
SF

I was waiting out on the streets for more than 24 hours doing jail solidarity for a bunch of my friends on the inside. And although it is deplorable that the city did seem to slow processing down for to meet the political objective of keeping people off the streets for the remainder of the RNC, I agree with the poster that to call this a "hostage" situation trivializes the term. "Hostages" are, generally speaking, illegally sezied and then held as bargaining chips and usually threated with physical harm if the hostage-takers demands are not met. It would be absurd to construe what happened in NYC that way.

Look, what we as activists did this past week was fantastic. Although the city did conduct many indiscriminate arrests, and although the conditions at e.g. Pier 57 were poor (relative to what they are supposed to be), it is ridiculous to suggest that we are suffering the way many of our comrades our in other places, from Chiapas to Palestine to Iraq. And, really, that should be fine with us. It doesn't trivialize OUR struggle to speak about it truthfully. We should be thankful that conditions are not (yet?) what they are in those other places.

Unless you were one of the ones illegally arrested, held in a cesspool, beaten, and forced to pay hundreds of dollars to get out of jail, are poor and have dark skin, and have spent time in war zones like Iraq, Palestine and Miami, then please don't tell the rest of us who DO fall into some of these categories what we should and shouldn't compare it to. Shokran Librale.

I don't think anyone is using the term 'hostages' in comparison to hostages such as in Chiapas, Palestine, etc...in the physical sense of the word. In other words, the tactics that have been on the increase (although not the first time in our history has government cracked down on dissent), behind those tactics there is an agenda. And at that agenda, is the purpose of political influence over the minds of the masses that aren't as informed about the policies and realities of our government. While the use of physical force such as is used in military/authoritarian regimes isn't applied here to the 'extent' that it is in other nations (with in fact, much support from US via training, military aid, finance), the means used here are just as if not more so dangerous. So, to use the terms as 'hostages' in the sense that protesters, those who dare to challenge the status quo are detained, simply for the purpose of keeping the TRUTH of the regime from the average American, the one sitting in livingroom watching the evening news, is indeed, a form of political force. As long as the capitalists can perpetuate the 'myths' of democracy, freedom, mobility, the more government can encroach upon, and ensnare the masses into complicity through ignorance and/or apathy. The message of the protests was powerful, one that the elite, ruling class does Not want the masses to really grasp...because if they did grasp the truth, truly grasp it, there would be mass revolt in the streets. And don't think the government isn't aware of this fact and why they'll go to any means necessary to depict political unrest as a small minority of radicals and as trouble makers. Its not so much what they (police, etc) do as far as arrests, its the much bigger picture, the silencing of dissent in this nation, and the means to keep those unaware from listening and knowing. Knowledge is power, what better way to keep masses powerless...keep the knowledge from them. Anarsi!

I just can't believe after every protest i go to, every police department gets in deep trouble and there's hundreds and even thousands of hours of video tape proof. i did not see one act of violence on protesters, yet police even went so far as to punch a few men and women bare-knuckled in the face!

when they were beating one guy up next to corporate media at the mouse bloc, he kept beating him as the cameras were on him. orders? not shy on camera?

there's always lawsuits afterwards no matter what. there doesn't have to be. it's really simple.

Neocons in this country love to piss all over the constitution. what dicks, its amazing there are people stupid enough to trust neocons.

and that was what my comments referenced. shortly after i posted the comment, the entire article was removed from the site. it has now re-appeared with the revised title, "JAIL CRISIS," so i guess i wasn't the only one who took issue with the hyperbole.

My wife made the right decision not to go to the RNC. She's chemically sensitive. We were worried about tear gas, but the chemicals on the prison floor could equally have ended her existence.

Thank you so much for your work, demonstrators, reporters, legals, supporters. The bulletins rekindled my old experiences concerning NH state police torture in 1979. I probably wouldn't have been too useful in the jail either. But I'm really sorry that I couldn't come.

The one thing that I have taken away from this is that there is a deep problem with the left these days, which is sad, since it is often the ideologically correct group.

The detention facilities on the pier were adequately lit, had ample toilets and open access to water, and were staffed by patient and courteous officers. Food was avaaible to all, and people in need of medical attention received it.

The most scandalous things that could be said was that the police department did not offer the full range of dietary options (to include vegan, kosher and halal meals), that because the facility was a former bus depot there were traces of moitor oil on the ground, and that thoroughly processing the arrest of hundreds and hundreds of folks takes a very long time.

One thing that is for certain is that the people who did the most complaining have obviously never worked an honest day in their lives. A man who spent ten years of his life working in that place when it was a indeed bus depot--the essence of the proletariat--would have every right to smack the protester in the face who cries out at the "injustice" of coming into contact with a thin film of residual motor oil on parts of the skin that were not clothed for the handful of hours that she was sitting in a holding pen with her friends.

No wonder the world can't take us seriously. Even our radicals are basically milquetoast whiners who, because they live in what is basically a progressive nad just society, resort to complaining about nonsense. Dissent give meaning to the activist's life, and when she has no grounds for a just dissent, her life is without purpose. Stick to dissenting about Bush... when you dissent about the ultimate non-issue of the condition of NYPD arrest processing facilities, you are courting lunacy.

In the meantime, never forget on your way back to college for the fall term that jail is not supposed to be especially comfortable or fun. The objective truth of the matter is that every single person who went through that facility will be no worse for the wear in the end. When I say "get a life," I mean it in the deepest way. Dissenters who complain about the peir lack meaning in their lives.

my son was one of the detainees he did develop a rash. the correction officers were coercing them to take the DAT and plead guilty and then they will be released promptly if not will stay longer and longer. thank you to all the detainees who were in the with Jonathan you all were courages. You did what you believed you needed to do. For that I commend all of you.

Stalag 57?
Steigen Sie aus dem Gehsteig nicht aus!
They were told to stay on the sidewalk.

I assume you are talking of the demonstrators who were to march from Ground Zero to Madison Sq Gdn?

They DID stay on the sidewalk, but were wrapped with orange netting and rounded up immediately after crossing the first intersection. Since when is a crosswalk not legally a sidewalk?

And your Stalag 57 remark, those who remember their German history know that Ernst Roehm (one of Hitler's henchmen who was purged within two years) and his Storm Troopers started early on to round up individuals and stick them in impromptu holding pens with deplorable conditions very similar to those at Pier 57.

Totally unacceptable behavior for our founding fathers and for any civilized society, if you ask me.

I'd love to know the judges name? Anyone know?

Dear Free Speech Hater,

You wrote:

“The one thing that I have taken away from this is that there is a deep problem with the left these days, which is sad, since it is often the ideologically correct group.â€

Note: Prefaced in an attempt to soften the minds of those who would sympathize with the protestors.

“The detention facilities on the pier were adequately lit, had ample toilets and open access to water, and were staffed by patient and courteous officers. Food was avaaible (sic) to all, and people in need of medical attention received it.â€

This is true in part: “well lit, ample toilets, open access to water…â€
But in fact the officers ran the gamut of personalities and I, as one of the detainees, saw all types. The “patient and courteous officers†were against the right wing lies and deceit we are all subjected to, but not all of the officers believed that way and many were pissed off that they were ordered to arrest and detain anti-conservative people. The claims that those who were captured deserved what they got is ludicrous since a republican delegate was detained and an off duty officer was also arrested until they credibly identified themselves.
Amongst the 50+ people that were rounded up with me was a 17 year-old girl from Germany that was out shopping when the cops indiscriminately arrested our group. She was at the wrong place at the wrong time. She will now go home and turn more of her country against America. Sorry Maria, we did not intend to make you a victim.
The truth about what happened at Pier 57 could only be understood if one were to look at the entire body of evidence and the perspective of each individual detained there. The political activists were detained on the inside of pens, but the cops were detained on the outside. My arresting officer did not want to be there, nor did many of the other officers, lieutenants, captains, et al. The officers who disagreed with the peoples right to protest freely made the peoples experience as unpleasant as possible. No detainees were beaten to my knowledge during their stay in Pier 57, but there were cops who threatened beatings and violence toward the individuals who were in the pens. I heard cops say: “If I had my way we would kick the shit out of you.†One officer (Duncan) caused nerve damage to the muscular branch of the median nerve in my right arm when he cinched the zip-cuffs tighter than necessary before I was transported to Central Booking from Pier 57 at 4:30 am. When I informed him that the cuffs were too tight he told me to “quit complaining.†He said, “I’m sick of this shit.†When he saw that my hand was turning green then purple and swelling to twice the normal size of my hand he returned with cuff snips and removed them. In regards to the replacement of the zip-cuffs on my wrists, he said, “You are fucking lucky because ten years ago this never would have happened.†Which, to my understanding, implies that prisoner abuse was a regular occurrence ten years prior to my arrest.
Note: The offence that was listed on my arrest sheet was an offense that typically requires a citation, not an arrest, detainment and fingerprinting. The cuffs and ridiculous conditions in which we were held are deplorable.

“Food was avaaible (sic) to all, and people in need of medical attention received it.â€

Absolutely FALSE! The person who wrote this was not there, and did not see the individuals who had their medication confiscated. One woman was experiencing seizures because she had her meds taken from her by ignorant cops. Another man was struggling to breathe the dioxin-laced air as diesel fumes spewed from busses and correction vehicles that entered Pier 57 all night. My throat was sore and my breathing was labored despite my healthy lungs after being locked up in Pier 57.
Note: If you need your meds carry a letter from your doctor at all times clearly stating your condition and keep your meds in their original prescription container less the police round you up for walking down the sidewalk.
In regards to the aforementioned food, do some research and you will understand the problem detainees had with eating the food that was provided to them. Look up the ingredients in white bread and bologna and you will understand why I chose to fast for the duration of my 23-hour stay in the custody of the NYPD. Think long and hard about the old adage, “You are what you eat,†or just head back to MacDonald’s to stuff your face while you chose not to think for yourself.
Many of the people who were locked up are more conscious about what they consume than the mindless followers of the Republican Party. Those who let others tell them what to think and do, buy and consume, should turn off the television and begin to read extensively in an attempt to be conscious humans.

“The most scandalous things that could be said was that the police department did not offer the full range of dietary options (to include vegan, kosher and halal meals), that because the facility was a former bus depot there were traces of moitor (sic) oil on the ground, and that thoroughly processing the arrest of hundreds and hundreds of folks takes a very long time.â€

Scandalous? How about indiscriminate arrests? A man was in pen # 1A with me who was on his way home from work in his button down shirt and khakis when the cops told him to sit down on the sidewalk, zip-cuffed him, and hauled him to Pier 57. He slept on the pavement. What many people do not know is that as the busses that were previously housed in the depot went through a wash before parking, and sat dripping all remaining residue onto the pavement; so in addition to the motor oil there is anti-freeze, exhaust residue, dioxin, and bird and mammal fecal matter on the ground in Pier 57. How would you feel sleeping in that cocktail after work?

“One thing that is for certain is that the people who did the most complaining have obviously never worked an honest day in their lives. A man who spent ten years of his life working in that place when it was a indeed bus depot--the essence of the proletariat--would have every right to smack the protester in the face who cries out at the "injustice" of coming into contact with a thin film of residual motor oil on parts of the skin that were not clothed for the handful of hours that she was sitting in a holding pen with her friends.â€

This is the most ignorant blanket statement I have seen yet. There were many hard working individuals in the pens with me. A college professor with a PhD, a lawyer and his son, professional photographers, artists, architects, farmers, business owners… get a clue. I used to own my own stonemasonry business and personally moved several tons of stone by hand on some days. To the author of this statement, don’t you dare tell me I have never worked an honest day in my life. What do you do in your honest day? Lie?
In regards to the former bus depot workers, did they ever come to the bus depot exhausted with zip-cuffs cutting into their wrists to spend the night with no place to sleep but on the pavement? Think before you write things like that. Those of us who were there have more intelligence (not to mention social consciousness) than that. Oh yeah, did you know motor oil is a carcinogen? Now try and use it topically, or better yet soak your pillow in it. (If I read this right the author suggests that a former worker has to right to strike a woman for stating the conditions were not healthy or safe.)

“No wonder the world can't take us seriously. Even our radicals are basically milquetoast whiners who, because they live in what is basically a progressive nad (sic) just society, resort to complaining about nonsense. Dissent give meaning to the activist's life, and when she has no grounds for a just dissent, her life is without purpose. Stick to dissenting about Bush... when you dissent about the ultimate non-issue of the condition of NYPD arrest processing facilities, you are courting lunacy.â€

Who does the world view as the biggest lunatic and treat to their safety and security? G. W. Bush. That is why they don’t take us seriously. We are doing what we can to tell the world that not all Americans are behind the fool that is in office. I repeat; Bush is the fool of all fools! Who exactly is courting lunacy? Those people who are unaware of our global status and direction in relation those who would love to see us crumble while supporting G. W. Bush in his feeble effort to capture the terrorist leader responsible for 9/11 are the true lunatics. Keep watching Fox News and you will go down in history as the most ignorant sheep to have lived.

“In the meantime, never forget on your way back to college for the fall term that jail is not supposed to be especially comfortable or fun. The objective truth of the matter is that every single person who went through that facility will be no worse for the wear in the end. When I say "get a life," I mean it in the deepest way. Dissenters who complain about the peir (sic) lack meaning in their lives.â€

When the lawsuit is settled against the NYPD you can go through the list of people who were detained and see we are much more than just a bunch of activist college students. We are concerned citizens that have a life and a voice that won’t be silenced by a repressive administration that forces their politics of fear down our throats. On behalf of those who are still studying to be conscious minded, productive members of our society, their vote counts and they won’t be voting for Bush. People are not tools for industry; industry is a tool of the people.
As for me, after my stay in the Pier, I feel more empowered than ever. My vote. My country. My pride. My dignity. You cannot take that away from me with narrow-minded statements and oppression of constitutional rights protecting free speech and the right to assemble.

“We must be the change we wish to see in the world.â€
-Mahatma Gandhi

Peace and love to all the victims of Pier 57, we will rise above this situation.

Goodbye Bush, and good luck with your next failure.

i was arrested on a31 and have two things to say. first, not everyone was taken to pier 57, many were taken directly to central booking because the personnel at the pier weren't able to handle any more detainees. secondly, we did have better treatment than most people arrested at these events because of our numbers and solidarity.
p.s. this situation definitely is not something to compare to the situation in russia right now, however, i am a guy and had no communication with the womyn being held and have heard rumors of much worse treatment for them than for me and the rest of the men arrested

very well put. thank you for your well-thought-out comments.

I was held for 46 hours in NYC...released yesterday in the late afternoon. Although I one-hundred percent agree with the hipocracy of calling it a hostage situation, i DO feel as though it is indicative of the sad state of our country. Further, I feel as though we must use the experience as a stepping stone to awareness. Unless we speak out against treatment like this we will never get out of the cycle. To be overly critical of those who are "whining" are only inhibiting a movement. HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM THE PAST? to stratify and split the movement like this only ends poorly. The situation at Pier 57 IS horrendous, and should be taken with EXTREME outrage. We, the 1,000 some detainees, were victims. To minimize our experience is JUST as oppressive. Next time you are in a warehouse or garage try and picture yourself curling up for over 22 hours on the floor in shorts and a tank top with no food and little access to water--your wrists cut or broken, and your spirit crushed. Lets not waste time on pity, but try and remember that we are all in this together--

the working class may have worked in the warehouse, but were never made to lie down on the ground with little food, access to water...etc. you are quite all assuming to decide the dissenters are white college students with no lives. try to reevaluate your statement with the movement as your main goal.

My daughter spent nearly 54 hours incarcerated - and never had access to a layer or a judge during that entire time period. Apparently, "habeus corpus", a part of common law since the Magna Carta in 1215, is now strictly a moment in history. What a mockery! All charges against her were dropped, but should never have been filed in the first place. The protesters at the WTC were walking in an orderly 2x2 line, as required by police. After only two blocks, the police stopped the marchers in front, thereby forcing the marchers behind to balloon out- Bernouli's Principle at work - and creating grounds for the mass arrest. Truly, the protesters were caught in a planned Catch 22.
She was told that $50 million had been set aside for the fine payment that judges would levy against the city for contempt, because it was planned in advance to hold protesters well beyond the required time limit. This was done to keep protest down to as minimum an amount as possible, despite protesters' inconvenient First Amendment rights.
Arrested protesters also heard that plainclothes police were passing themselves off as NYT reporters.
If either of these proves to be true, it would be a sad day for constitutional law. I hope there is a massive law suit.

This is the future for all Bush voters and all Bush protesters. Remember - if your not with us your against us!
Give the man a second tem and all laws and morals will be dictated from the White House and all opponents mercilessly crushed. Wake up America!

I live in the uk and considering that the USA stands supposedly for FREEDOM ' from what i can see there it seesm there is no freedom in the usa at all, also there is nothing on our tv's in the uk about all of this which also includes the death list of hurricane charley, just goes to show that they only report what they want.
Although all we have had in the uk on our news is that idiot president bush's speech and appearance in the convention , we are force to watch that idiot make a bigger idiot of himself , it's about time that the people of the USA STARTED TO SPEAK OUT AT WHAT IS GOING ON BEFORE THE IDIOT BUSH TAKES WHAT RIGHT THEY HAVE LEFT AWAY FROM THEM COMPLEATLY

classic example of post traumatic stress disorder.

There should be a class action lawsuit against the city of New York

Another step in weening us off democracy. Our rights are nearly gone, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Might as well face it.

Isn't freedom wonderfull! I wonder what it would be like to live in a police state.

Shame, that any fines paid will be in tax dollars to whom?

The government has learned much since 1968 about how to manage dissenters.

In Chicago during the 1996 Dem. convention protestors were not allowed near the convention site without special permits.

After the big media left town at the end of the convention the Chicago police (using the anti-terrorist act signed by Clinton) claimed they suspected terrorists were lurking in offices rented for the convention by various protest groups. The police trashed the offices.

While the convention was going on Chicago police broke video cams and confiscated film from indy reporters trying to film from outside the perimeter of the convention.

Many activists were arrested. Months later all charges were dropped, with much expense incurred by activists and a remaining chill on dissent.


Before the Phildelphia Rep. Convention in 2000, PA state troopers infiltrated activists groups--some posing as artists building puppets etc. Activists were pre-emptively arrested and held during the convetion with bail set as high as $1 million. The charges were dropped later and the activists exonerated.

Similar scenarios occured at the Dem. 2000 convention in LA with protestors kept away from the convention and the media ignoring them.

The modus operandi is clear. The powers that be will do everything they can get away with to stifle dissent. Their attempts to stage manage their public spectacles are getting more desperate and more obvious.

Drag netting peaceful citizens on public streets does not make for good PR. Neither does having judges find governmental lackeys in contempt of the law.

The more publicly such police state tactics are displayed the better (and safer) for everyone.

The utter disregard the rulers of this country and their henchmen have for the constitutional rights (for which they are quick to tell us our soldiers have died and are dying to protect)of the people needs to be broadcast far and wide and opposed at every opportunity.

bloomberg has set himself up for revolving door civil rights lawsuits.
THANK YOU NYC PROTESTORS-ONCE AGAIN YOU SHOW YOUR TRUE PATRIOTIC COLORS IN PROTEST OF THE of the pRESIDENT sELECT:

RED, WHITE and BLUE

Get Bush out? Replace him with who? Millionaire Kerry? Get real. They are two slight variations of the same police state. Wake up.

You need to explain your rating. I clicked "excellent" because the article was so informative. I didn't mean the treatment of the detainees was excellent. How was the legal handling? The judge was excellent. The response to the judge's order sucked.

You need to explain your rating. I clicked "excellent" because the article was so informative. I didn't mean the treatment of the detainees was excellent. How was the legal handling? The judge was excellent. The response to the judge's order sucked.

Does no once recall that it was this mayor who in preparation of the RNC made the statement containing the rmark that freedom of speach may become a privilege?? Now that is an attitude! Those who were there and committed most likely expected some such event to occur but for those of whom who were caught into this 'netting' who had intended no attachment to those who were present to exercise 1st Amendment rights and to make a point should have at least had a voice to whomever arrested them. Is this the manner in which we are to conduct our public presence,to think that by merely being present somewhere in a public venue that we can simply be rounded up along with those who also without a very valid and lawful reason should not be detained or dispersed when they are following what was proscribed as lawful conduct in this measure. From what I read there were countermanding orders to which they could only be entrapped by observing. It is a no win situation as presently conducted and those who design it this way are the law breakers not those who simply wish a voice other than those which are approved to tell you exactly nothing.

It is sad but the US reminds me of the NAZIs. SS Gestapo. Arrest and inconvenience people, less will participate. Now NYC populace should protest police action. It won't happen. You are all doomed in the US. You vill learn to obey ze rules of zee state or be punished!

What's the yapping about? When the word and concept of "pre-emptive" is used for a bully action against any country or person (maybe you), what do you expect from the note taking bureauocrats of a city? Pre-emptively keep the demonstrators away. Pre-emptive is what needs to be addressed and challenged by way of suits by all the detainees/patriots. Black's Law Dictionary 4th edition says: "In international law. The right of pre-emption is the right of a nation (USA) to detain the merchandise of strangers (Iraq) passing through her territories or seas (USA?),in order to afford her subjects (Slaves?) the preference of purchase (steal) (OIL?)." The only place where "Pre-emptive" is justified, IMHO,is in medicine if it fits more on the order of prophylactic, but again only where it is more as a reaction to a disease, not as what happened to some unfortunate women who were frightened into submitting to a double mastectomy before any signs or symptoms of a cancer, only because there was a history of it in their family. "Pre-emptive"?? Criminal..synonyms. ICC where are you?

ONLY A REVOLUTION BY THE PEOPLE WILL STOP AMERICA'S MADNESS.

Of what democracy are you referring to Barbara? The Supreme Court now decides elections, not the people of this country.

Someone remarked that those who "don't get out and vote, don't have any right to complain."

So where does the Florida voting situation in 2000 fit within your matrix? Oh, and how much does it cost to get even in the running for an office.

sham, top to bottom in the face of a creeping centralized power.

Looks like Nazi Germany has shown its ugly
head in our beloved country.

"Get Bush out? Replace him with who? Millionaire Kerry? Get real. They are two slight variations of the same police state. Wake up. "

wake up to who? who else can we vote for that stands a chance? kerry is the lesser of 2 evils...i hate kerry too, but id rather have him than bush. maybe if we wake up now, in 4 or 8 yrs we can actually vote for someone worth voting for, but for this election, theres nothing we can do but vote for kerry. a vote for a 3rd party is just a vote for bush.

Yeah, real smart "um..."
if we just keep voting for the lesser evil every year "maybe in 4 or 8 yrs we can actually vote for someone worth voting for"
waking up to get out of the system begins with you.

Common law is dead.
Election is dead.

I'd love to hear a real solution.

I guess this is "justice" by the
New York PIG Department. Welcome to the NEW YORK NAZI PARTY.

This is just another example of how the world is getting out of hand and how the people have become slaves to the system. Have we no fight left in us? Are we to be pushed into prisons at the first signs of disagreement? Freedom of speech is dying throughout the western world. The military and police are sell-outs to humanity. Instead of protecting the interests of the people, they've become corporate bodyguards.

This is an unbelieveable story !! I lived in Nazi Austria during the 2nd WW - and this sounds exactly like them

Why did I come to the US in 1949 ? Certainly NOT to be reminded of Hitler again !!!!!!!!!

once again demonstrating the arbitrary enforcement by police of vague and overbroad disorderly conduct statutes to suppress legitimate First Amendment activity

Are you cracked?

You wrote:
"The detention facilities on the pier were adequately lit, had ample toilets and open access to water, and were staffed by patient and courteous officers. Food was avaaible to all, and people in need of medical attention received it."

WRONG! Sure, they were adequately lit, so lit up that you could barely rest. And we only had open access to water well after 8 hours of being held in the pens (more than for some people), food was only available after 3 am in small amounts, and certainly wasn't what I'd call adequate, and you had to beg for medical attention. We shouted for *hours* to get medical attention in our cell. The female cops blatently ignored us.

So, please, tell me, a scientist who has worked at just about every job imaginable, why I am milquetoast? Please tell me why I deserved what I got? I'd like to know.

the females chanted for a doctor for a very long time after having our polite requests for one ignored by the female officers at pier 57. We never got a doctor. I have a bronchial condition that needed attention and there were several other sisters that needed help as well. i was also told that if i went to the hospital it would take me twice as long to get out and that all rnc related prisoners were to be brought to the hospital in a squad car not in an ambulance.

Jail Crisis? Hostage Crisis? Observed from outside the U.S., the big picture looks a little different.

When a person is in jail,it is usually with the approval of the courts. Not here, kids.

When a person is taken hostage, there is usually a demand attached to that person's release. Not here, kids.

But, in Chile, they have perfected the original steps of the dance we see being performed here.

The people in question have been made to "disappear" until such time as it is convenient for the regime in power to either release or dispose of them.

The time span of this disappearance may be quite brief, but then your government is not as practiced as was that of Augusto Pinochet, a world-renowned specialist in the use of "Disappearance" as a political tool.

I have every confidence that with practice and more minor drills such as this, your heroic Commander-in-Chief and his goon squad will soon be performing such disappearances with the kind of smoothness, professionalism, and insouciance that will take away both your breath AND your remaining freedom.

Good Luck America, We'll miss you. You were doing okay for a while there.

TimT

The authorities better get their act together before we have the whole country protesting (as in the day bush cancels the election, the day the stockmarket crashes again, the day the Japanese/foriegn powers call in the mortgage bonds).How can they hold a large number of us down effectively? This should be a reminder of our strength if we stand together

Dear Americans,
The handwriting that has been "on the wall" for four years is now garishly scribbled, in bright red lipstick, on our collective bathroom mirrors.
Do we see it yet? It's Bread and Circuses, baby, from now on. It's GOOD to be King and george knows it. Like he said,"It'd be a heckuva lot easier if this were a dictatorship...As long as I'm dictator".
Hmmm. Anybody else feel that shiver go up their spine? It has been said that 'a people get the government that they deserve'. Do we deserve this government?
If laziness, stupidity, and apathy are the barometers, then yes, I'm afraid that we do, in fact, deserve this government that has been inflicted across this land.
Question: Are we going to take this crap from me, or, are we going to do something about it?
Turn off the T.V. and the air conditioner, flush the pharmaceutical poisons, including aspartame and fluoride (non-pharm poisons), and use as little gasoline as possible, for starters. This will start reversing the Cranial/Anal Inversion that plagues this land.
Almost everything that you've been told for a long time is Bullshit. The Corporate/Media/Fascist/Monopoly hook is just about sunk. The Lie is the Truth. War is Peace. And the prezident (sic) "knows what he knows" and he "knows that it's right".
Damn! There goes that chill again. Late>>>

Yes, I got the chills like early stages of hypothermia. But, when one is freezing to death the chills eventually subside. Right before death takes hold a victim begins to feel euphoric and quite warm, but it is only percieved warmth as capillaries begin to rupture creating an intense sensation that the brain interprets as heat. When these people are found dead in the snow often times they are mistaken for rape victims since during the last moments of their lives they tear off thier clothes because they felt hot when the ice crystals were piercing their nerves and blood was spouting into their subcutaneous layers.

The message is this:
Republicans, you are freezing to death and you don't even know it. Complacency has taken ahold of your brain and you feel that a vote for G. W. is the right way to go. When history is retold don't be mistaken for a rape victim.

We are all in this together. I know that every person wants a better tomorrow than yesterday, especially in regards to their children. The environment is us, and we are all at risk of self-destruction under the heavy hand of G. W. Please think about the things that are really killing people. Terrorism is not what we will have to worry about when our water quality is such that it poisons the entire planet. All you would-be-mothers should have a blood test for heavy metals (mercury, lead, etc.) since they can cause permanent damage to an unborn child like blindness and braindamage.

I met a woman who was a counter protestor on Sunday, A 29, and she was basically a single issue voter that has strong beliefs regarding the abortion issue. I tried to tell her that if we don't reverse the damage Bush is doing to our environmental protection laws abortion will be a moot point since no childern will be concieved in this country due to the poison built up in every woman's womb. (Those who doubt me, have it checked, it is a simple blood test.) Bush has appointed all of his big business, big polluter buddies to high level positions in the government that control our environmental policies.

In regards to Larry M's. suggestion to flush prescription drugs down the toilet... please don't. It is in our water supply right now. If you didn't know already, you are drinking prozac, anti-biotics and birth control every day you fill a glass from the tap. These chemicals a pissed out of the bodies of everyone who takes them, and where do you think it goes? Sewage treatment plants don't filter them out. Where do you think it goes? Not to the moon or outer space. Where do you think it goes? Water is our most precious commodity. We need to protect it before we secure our oil reserves. Think about it before the shivering begins to subside. Do not become complacent.

Note to everyone under the age of 40: We will see bigger wars over water in our lives than have ever been fought over oil. Do your homework or history will mistake you for a rape victim. That is the most atrocious of crimes to endure.

This is america??????????
I was sworn in as a us citizen the day that us went to war.....brilliant.

"The one thing that I have taken away from this is that there is a deep problem with the left these days which is sad, since it is often the ideologically correct group."

The left exists within society, much as we would like it to be a separate entity. Many problems it faces are direct results of efforts at division, infiltration, undermining, propaganda by the right and by the corporatists.

"One thing that is for certain is that the people who did the most complaining have obviously never worked an honest day in their lives.
A man who spent ten years of his life working in that place when it was a indeed bus depot--the essence of the proletariat--would have every right to smack the protester in the face who cries out at the "injustice" of coming into contact with a thin film of residual motor oil on parts of the skin that were not clothed for the handful of hours that she was sitting in a holding pen with her friends."

Yeah! Go Sadists! Police Brutality Rules! .. Or not at all.. Sorry.. You claim to represent the 'true left', as it were, however all I see you doing is attempting to create and exploit divisions. If there are people from colleges, from the middle class, or elsewhere who join the left, more power to them. In this country, at this moment more than any, all dissent is needed and should be welcome. If you turn a blind eye to others, they will respond in kind.

What's so honest about work, exactly? Helping the ruling class consolidate more wealth? Not organizing to fight them? Being an unthinking, unquestioning slave -- a member of the 'new', 'flexible labor' force -- the toast of businessmen the world over? Your claimed devotion to being an 'honest' man, with all the presumed 'superiority' you seem to imply, will not save you from capitalism, just as the choice (if it is one) not to work, or not to work 'honestly' (whatever you happen to be implying) will not save others. It may be argued that there is, in point of fact, no 'honest' work under capitalism (though clearly certain forms should be avoided at all costs). These factional bickerings are pointless.

Of course, many who claim 'superiority' on account of 'honest work' are in fact concerned only with their own special rights, and in preserving these greater 'rights' for themselves than for others. Certainly this is true for many businessmen and similar 'radicals', as it were, who, in their praise of 'honest work', and pretense to be engaged in 'honest work' themselves, conceal their contempt for those they
enslave.

Your degree of honesty will be judged by your actions and intentions, not fabricated by your special status, whatever it may be.

"No wonder the world can't take us seriously. Even our radicals are basically milquetoast whiners who, because they live in what is basically a progressive nad just society, resort to complaining about nonsense."

A 'progressive and just society', as you put it.. namely, the central command of the largest and most oppressive empire and manufacturer of police states internationally, in the world. And just as well, the epicenter of waves of inundation of propaganda. We must look to, and oppose, those who seek to infiltrate, confuse, or otherwise undermine the movement, whether ideologically (through media or institutions) or in person, as they constitute the primary source of weakness in this respect.

"No wonder the world can't take us seriously" .. I suppose that would have nothing to do with the United States' economic and political imperialism, most recently, for instance, the chiefly unprovoked wars on Afghanistan, Iraq, and the covertly-funded and supported coup on Haiti? Or its completely ignoring the UN and international democratic process?

" Dissent give meaning to the activist's life, and when she has no grounds for a just dissent, her life is without purpose. Stick to dissenting about Bush... when you dissent about the ultimate non-issue of the condition of NYPD arrest processing facilities, you are courting lunacy."

I see.. So at last you admit, as you subsquently claim in other terms below, that you believe there are, whether at present or throughout history, 'no grounds for a just dissent'. Interesting, to say the least. (Long live King George, no doubt.)

For someone evidently outside the movement, and so similarly ill-informed, you seem to assume quite a lot about whether the activist's life has 'meaning' or 'purpose' outside of activism. Unless, of course, you've been involved in some sort of a surveillance operation against particular individual activists.

Opposing Bush is what is known as a stop-gap measure, in your parlance. It is, for the moment, necessary, but not sufficient. Namely, had you and your other supposedly high-minded but evidently aloof, 'honest' friends united with those who have long stood at the fore of the opposition and the Left in this country in the 2000 elections, whether by supporting a progressive rather than corporate platform in the
Democratic party before them, or else by taking to the streets to oppose the election fraud after the fact, then Bush would not be in office in the first place, and this nation might have seen four years of (admittedly minor) advancement or lessened decline, rather than unmitigated regression, and destruction and dismantling of the federal government in favor of corporate rule.

Dissent against jail conditions has a long and honorable history, though clearly those who are 'free' (or at least outside of jail) themselves have the luxury of not concerning themselves with these.

All institutions, including the prison system, are part of the overall fascist totalitarian
state, and all may be challenged on equal grounds. To play favorites, as you would seem to, achieves nothing. If you were really for the proletariat, then your rationale for opposition to inhuman or degrading conditions would be self-evident: jail is used primarily and disproportionately as a threat against it, rather than against the middle or the ruling classes.

And incidentally, I WILL smack you in the face if you advocate senseless violence or intimidation against others in the movement again. Fuck you.

"In the meantime, never forget on your way back to college for the fall term that jail is not supposed to be especially comfortable or fun."

Of course not. Obviously we can't have people challenging the property rights of the owning class even in minor ways without punishing them in as extreme a manner as possible.

"on your way back to college"

Stupid smart people! If only there were more thugee businessmen in the movement! .. Or not at all. I suppose all your friends in the hundreds of gop thinktanks must all be totally uneducated.. Somehow I doubt it. Increasingly the academies have come to be dominated by the young republicans, other highly-funded arms of the gop, as well as by likeminded fascists. That there are some in colleges who stand against them, recognizing the merit in the Left and its purposes, is to be praised rather than reviled. To act otherwise is to cede them total and unopposed control of this institution, which ensures another propaganda system set against us.

At hand is, inevitably, a war of ideas, as the right has correctly recognized, and needed are ideological warriors as much as outright protestors or other activists.

Clearly you are educated yourself, but oppose education for others, preferring, apparently, that they not share such learning. Rather false and deceptive for a self-proclaimed 'honest man', it would seem.

"The objective truth of the matter is that every single person who went through that facility will be no worse for the wear in the end. When I say "get a life," I mean it in the deepest way. Dissenters who complain about the peir lack meaning in their lives."

I hear your argument continually from the propagandists and counter-insurgents for the ruling class: namely, that dissent stems from personal flaw rather than insight into or direct experience with political and economic injustice, inequality, and totalitarianism. That those who perceive what is amiss with society or hold ideas or ideologies outside the mainstream must, instead, have something 'wrong with them',
as it were. This is the typical ideological projection of problems from the oppressor to the oppressed. When the ruling class is unwilling or unable to accept responsibility for the systems it creates, it will instead lay the blame at the place of those it enslaves, and those who oppose it.

What you are saying, effectively, is that activists are not using their time effectively. They ought to be focussed on separate fights (namely, 'personal development'), rather than uniting under a single, or even multiple, banners. Your plan once more plays into the hands of the capitalists, who prize self-advancement as a useful tool to distract attention and dissent from the current status of the nation and the world at large.
Everyone who goes through life, period, will, equally, be no worse for wear at the end, when they are no more. In that case, why oppose suffering, inequality, or injustice at all? Your claim is pointless, unless of course you in fact clandestinely and underhandedly promote the current fascist totalitarianism.

Our objective, among others, is to attain an overall quality of life for all, throughout life, rather than 'redemption' in the last thirty seconds.

And just so we're clear, I do not promote special attention for some over others, but neither do I promote ignoring suffering.

Finally, as nearly each of your arguments and strategies is a thinly-veiled modification to existing counter-insurgent propaganda, I ask which side are you really on? And if you are against the movement, then why are you wasting its time, you stupid, whining rat?

I hope this detention center will be tested for asbestos, in the case of a lawsuit. The police officers who were on duty at that location should sue, too, if they were exposed to asbestos (along with toxic petrochemicals).

Welcome to the Fourth Reich.

I think the Mayor of New York should have been held in contempt of court and locked up in a cell with no bunk and used motor oil spread on the floor until he allowed those people access to a judge. This is not America anymore because the First Amendment gives us the right to peaceful protests.

 http://www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html

Write to Jim McGreevy and ask him to use New Jersey's interstate projects and Port Authority leverage to force Bloomberg and Pataki to release the protestors!

These detentions in NYC were clearly partisan arrests directed by Republican Bloomberg and Republican Pataki

Jim McGreevey is the only Democrat who wields the influence to force NYC to release the protestors!

To protect the rights of these innocent activists who the State Supreme Court ordered released, McGreevey would be justified in shutting down the trains and tunnels until Pataki and Bloomberg com-ply with the courts.

Read my book when it comes out. "The Invisible Patriots" subtitled "The 2nd American Revolution", read the first two chapters at:

 http://web.tampabay.rr.com/wnorman

Let the following things inform the readers of this page:

No police department in the country is required to read anyone his rights. If the department wants a statement from an interrogation to be admissible in court, then it must read the prisoner his rights. Rights to not have to be read when asking for name, address, etc.

Only ten people out of the 1,700 arrested were transported to a hospital, and only one of them was admitted. The remainder were treated and released. No person was found to have any sort of documented injury relating to the protest, the arrest, or the detainment.

By law, the NYPD cannot allow people to hold on to their medication. Once an arrest is made, the NYPD becomes that person's custodian, and because they do not have prior knowledge of the person's medical history who they are now responsible for, they cannot allow that person to ingest drugs without seeing a doctor during the arrest process.

After returning from a weekend vacation, it appears that my supporters have been busy on this website. Although I am happy to see so many supporters of free speech, I call on all participants to practice strictly legal means of protesting this site. I do not support the use of viruses, trojans, or DOS attacks. Until our objective is met, I do sanction continuous and frequent posting of information that is relevant to current events and presents an alternative view.

I want to lay out the objective very clearly. My objective is simply for the managers of this site to follow their own editorial policy. That policy can be found here:
 http://nyc.indymedia.org/mod/info/display/editorial_policy/index.php.
It allows postings of materials that are in disagreement with the editors' views. Until
Indymedia follows this policy, it is reasonable to expect lots of postings from free-speech
loving people who would otherwise be happy never to return here. Some of you may call it clutter. We call it free speech, and relevant direct action in support of free speech. I can think of no better use for our time.

In fact, Indymedia heroically claims that they "welcome posts that disagree with the opinions held by the editors of this website." My experience, and the experience of many others, is that legitimate articles expressing alternative views are routinely deleted. And beyond articles, in my opinion, they take this fascist approach down to the detail of each comment posted. In short, Indymedia does not follow their editorial policy. We believe that this fact puts their charter in jeopardy, and we are taking appropriate action to act on that belief.

Thanks especially to Jules and Trix, and others, for organizing and continuing to assert pressure. For anyone who wishes to join us in strictly-legal actions against Indymedia, please write  mccainsarmy@yahoo.com

And lastly, we remind Indymedia that throughout human history, fascist tactics have been a favorite method for suppressing free speech. The justification is always that the state is looking out for the interests of the populace, a transparently phony appeal to the common good. We utterly reject your approach.

“Man is nothing without thoughts. There is no greater right than the right to communicate them, and no greater obligation than defending that right.â€
----- McCain

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Someone is trying to change the way we live...

Orwell could now write a reality show.

**URGENT ATTENTION** USE > THEIR < LAW as a Sword Against THEM!

"Police hold 1,000 at 'Guantanamo on the Hudson"
ILLEGAL FORCED IMPRISONMENT at PIER 57 within an ILLEGAL HAZARDOUS WASTE ZONE FIGHT BACK ON YOUR TERMS AND ON YOUR BATTLEFIELD NOT THEIR’S !

What I suggest must be done quickly and with MASSIVE PUBLIC PRESS COVERAGE.

I would Suggest that an organized CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS be Filed against New York City and also New York State by ALL of the people ( VICTIMS ) who were locked up in the Pier 57 Garage. That the City of New York DELIBERATELY Incarcerated American Citizens in an ILLEGAL DEADLY HAZARDOUS WASTE ZONE within a Condemned Fire Damaged structure thereby jeopardizing their Lives, Health and Safety, likewise the lives of Police, City Staff and construction workers involved.

FACT #1. If a person merely breaths into their lungs just one small particle or fiber of asbestos they will in time develop cancer of the lungs, as there is no way the body can rid itself of asbestos fibers. Said Cancer may take a long term of time to develop before being detected. This Warehouse facility contains asbestos in large quantity and since the building is old, unused, and damaged by fire no doubt the accumulated dust stirred up in the air by large number of people entering and held there was heavily concentrated with the asbestos, and other dangerous dust contaminants such as dried fecal matter of pigeons, mice and
rats also. Thus posing a Deadly Health Hazard to all persons entering the Building and Grounds.

FACT #2. Used Motor Oil, Especially Lubricating oils drained from Diesel Engines Contain many Hazardous and Deadly Chemicals and Cancer causing elements that can be absorbed by mere contact with the skin and also vapors breathed in by the lungs. Some of these Dangerous poisons will concentrate as the Oil ages in the open air ( a slower process if stored in closed containers ) and goes through Chemical changes and oxidizes with age and exposure to varying temperatures and the open air.

Keep in Mind that the Resulting Disabilities, Illnesses and Deaths resulting from the Exposure of the VICTIMS to such Contamination’s will not become evident for a long period of time in most cases.

FACT #3. That the City of New York has in it’s possession or care a Building Facility that is and has been an ILLEGAL HAZARDOUS WASTE ZONE, and a facility damaged by fire and is thus unusable for any purpose and yet the City of New York has not removed the Building Structure and reclaimed the land and cleaned up the Hazardous waste for ten or more years, allowing a Fire Damaged
Condemned Building & open unguarded Hazardous Waste Area to exist within a populated city area, jeopardizing local Inhabitants and other Properties in the area.

FACT #4 That the Mayor and other Staff involved have in fact Committed Attempted MURDER and unfortunately the deadly effects of said Contaminants
May not become apparent for a few years by which time the victims will not think of the connection and source of their Cancers and or Terminal Illnesses with their
Incarceration at

Thus the City of New York has Blatantly Grossly Violated Many Environmental Protection Laws without any regard nor concern at all for the Health and Safety of the Whole New York Area Communities. I must also note that these Hazardous Waste Contaminants can be carried to other properties by the various vermin, which normally inhabit such abandoned buildings, such as pigeons, mice, rats and stray dogs. While also dangerous fumes from drain oil and other liquid contaminants within the building and asbestos fibers can also be carried throughout the area by wind gusts.

NOW I ASK :
1.- WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ILLEGAL HAZARDOUS WASTE CONDITIONS ?

2.- WHY HAS THE CITY GOVERNMENT OF NEW YORK ALLOWED SUCH A HAZARDOUS WASTE CONDITION TO EXIST FOR SO MANY YEARS THUS THREATENING THE HEALTH AND LIVES OF A LARGE AREA OF THE CITY ?

3.- HOW MANY OTHER PROPERTIES AND FACILITIES OWNED OR IN THE CARE OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK ARE NEGLETED ILLEGAL OPEN HAZARDOUS WASTE ZONES ?

A.- NOW I SUGGEST A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF NEW YORK BE FILED BY ALL VICTIMS WHO WERE DELIBERATELY HELD IN CUSTODY AT PIER 57 WITHIN A KNOWN DANGEROUS HAZARDOUS WASTE ZONE. That each victim of this lockup be awarded from 2 to 10 Million Dollars EACH For their Future Disabilities, Medical Expenses, and eventual lose of life and possible negative effects on their future offspring, expected due to the exposure to these ILLEGAL HAZARDOUS WASTE conditions the City of New York is Responsible for.

B. - CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS also be filed against the MAYOR of New York and ALL NYC Government Personnel who Commanded and Arranged for the FORCED LOCKUP of People within this Contaminated, and unfit for any use facility who Knowingly knew beyond any doubt that this ILLEGAL
HAZARDOUS WASTE ZONE Contaminated Facility would pose a dangerous and deadly threat to ALL person who entered the Building and Grounds of the Facility which also includes the Law Enforcement Officers, and the Laborers who
installed the razorwire and holding pens themselves.

This is a Mere outline of a Suggest to once and for all take a tangible stand against those in power who desire to destroy Freedom and all that America stands for. You’ll have to organize all of this and work out the Legal details and procedures, as I am not a lawyer. ONCE AND FOR ALL PUT A REAL SPEAR INTO THIS ENEMY OF FREEDOM! USE THEIR LAW THEY USE AGAINST YOU AND SHOVE IT RIGHT BACK DOWN THEIR NEO NAZI THROATS. DO IT
WELL, DO IT QUICKLY, AND BLAST IT ALL OVER THE MEDIA HERE IN THE USA AND WORLDWIDE ON THE INTERNET AND SHORTWAVE RADIO STATIONS.

Think about all I have Said NYC BLATENTLY BREAKING the Environmental Protection Laws and Jeopardizing the Health of the whole city. That the LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN CONTAMINATED TOO! That the Work Crews who installed the razor wire and holding pens, PA Systems and all else HAVE BEEN COINTAMINATED ALSO AS WERE THE PRISONERS.

THAT EVERYONE MUST BE MADE AWARE OF THIS CONTAMINATION OF EVFERYONE WHO SET FOOT ONTO THE GROUNDS AND INSIDE THE WAREHOUSE OF PIER 57! Also How many other Properties under City
Ownership or care are Contaminated?

What do you think the Reaction of the People of NYC will be when they are informed of this massive contamination of the area? What do you think the Police Force Personnel reaction will be when they learn that they too are contaminated and were ordered to perform such duty in a HAZARDOUS WASTE ZONE. UNWARNED and UNPROTECTED and were not told of the risks nor equipped with Bio-Chem Suits, and ordered into a Deadly Zone by the Mayor and by their
superiors WHO KNEW OF THE DEADLY HAZARDS at Pier 57! So you want the Police on your side for a change? Do You want the people of New York on Your Side also?

WELL HERE IS YOUR CHANCE FOR SOME TRUE POWER AND PROGRESS AGAINST THE ENEMIES OF FREEDOM!